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| FB has Stolen NSN Work |
After checking yet one more file I found the finial proof needed to say FB is a thief. PHP-Nuke 7.2 is PHP-Nuke 7.1.1 NSN Modified with ChatServ's phpBB 2.0.7 upgrade. Refer to the file comparision here and you'll notice that FB copied the corrected sql file I provided with 7.1.1 and he forgot to change faqAnswers and faqCategories to faqanswers and faqcategories. This is the finial proof that he is a liar and thief, making money off of our work and not his own! Hey FB, where's my share of those club profits????????????
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by Fugi on Saturday, March 20 2004 @ 16:02:43 CST
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Omg how crap is that for you bob?
watch how you wont get any replies if u try and talk to him :-)
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by redville on Saturday, March 20 2004 @ 16:49:51 CST
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Yes, I realized that last night when I checked into it even more and all the white spaces were even matching up.
I would say Congratulations Bob, it looks like you are now the proud owner of PHPNuke, since he has released yours as the official version.
I am going to start this weekend changing all the copyrights in the files on my site from FB to Nukescripts.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by yet_again (sgbbgks.b@fbgfbghhdbhjds.dbfb) on Saturday, March 20 2004 @ 17:01:08 CST
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And where did the source code for NSN-Nuke come from again?
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by NSN-FRANCAIS on Saturday, March 20 2004 @ 17:21:06 CST
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He bob, sure you are raison ...
and JC is the same person ...
Pffuu, finaly two bad men JC-FB ...
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by tjungeblut on Monday, March 22 2004 @ 06:30:09 CST
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Great comment, are you not able to say something usefull??
I do not care which point of view you share, but I you want to say something do it in an professional manner!
Or just say nothing.
Theo
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by deanot on Monday, March 22 2004 @ 14:51:21 CST
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Thank you Theo, Any vulgar posts will be deleted, lets be cival here ok.
Yes I went a bit AWOL in my comment, but it was out of anger and not stupidness.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by BobMarion on Saturday, March 20 2004 @ 19:24:08 CST
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I see you have confused NSN-Nuke and PHP-Nuke. We are not talking about the same thing here as you seem to think we are. We are talking about PHP-Nuke 7.1.1 NSN and PHP-Nuke 7.2 which are one in hte same but with any and all credits to NSN stripped by either FB or one of his elites at his orders.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by deanot on Sunday, March 21 2004 @ 08:44:50 CST
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Well it was not stolen for a start! Bob and the rest of the NSN-NUKE team used it under the GNU/GPL, so if your claiming they stole it you need to pull your head out of FB's ass and smell the coffee.
FB stole someone elses work and claims it to be his own, if not he would have left it as the NSN upgrade to FB lame ass coding!
Anyone want to argue the fact can kiss my hairy butt, talking of kissing hairy butt, now I could mention some names of people that actualy does that to FB! YOU KNOW WHO I MEAN....
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by mavrick1971 on Saturday, March 20 2004 @ 17:50:30 CST
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That does not supprise me at all. He always been taking credit for other people work. He even deleted a post on his site when i said something against his system and bugs
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by Superbobby on Sunday, March 21 2004 @ 07:32:36 CST
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Don't worry about it Bob. I've always been taught that "what goes around comes around". He will have to answer for it some day.
I have noticed all the changes he has made to his "strategy" lately. He's just greedy. He starts an "open source" project and then wants to turn it commercial mid-stream and then wonders why every one is so pissed at him. Hmmmm.....
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by Goldberg on Sunday, March 21 2004 @ 09:51:59 CST
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Just take a look on the bright side, besides the fact that he askes money for the Club. Because of you Bob and ChatServ PHP-Nuke is becomming more and more secure and gets rid of modules like webmail.
To bad this is not very good for the future because this could be a reason for some to stop working op nuke.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by CJmac on Sunday, March 21 2004 @ 16:22:27 CST
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Bottom line Bob is this...your version is far superior and the whole damn nuke world knows it. Hell, I bet 1/2 the nukers out there don't even know who FB is :)
All he stripped is your CURRENT version, whats he gonna do now that you're onto him? Actually code somethin? Funny stuff. If his "Subscriptions" type upgrade are an example of his current thought process, he's gonna get his bum spanked by NSN.
Don't sweat it bro, most nukers know the deal.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by deanot on Sunday, March 21 2004 @ 17:11:32 CST
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Now this is the sort of support we need, lets face facts here, NSN never created the "THEM AND US" Situation, FB did it along with the rest of the FB clan.
He made his bed, let him lay in it and see how all this works out.
I dont need to ask for more support, I know the users of this site support the efforts on Bobs part, all he did was to make a sort of good product BETTER, and he did, if not FB would not have ripped Bob off, but most of all FB's loyal subscription guys.
It looks to me that FB no longer needs to build on PHP-NUKE, he cant fix the bugs in it withour people like Bob.
Let him burn I say!
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by vytal on Monday, March 22 2004 @ 06:32:33 CST
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Yes burn him at the stake!!!!
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by tjungeblut on Monday, March 22 2004 @ 16:05:31 CST
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Deanot: Yes your are right (to your response above in the thread). Discussion based on facts is the only thing that can help and would be professional!
Even if making bad comments feels sometimes much better in such a moment.
Use the GPL to make your point, beause PHP-Nuke is released under it.
With the GPL, while having prove for what FB did, you can make your point!
Theo
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by mavrick1971 on Monday, March 22 2004 @ 16:00:19 CST
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it sad i posted on phpnuke.org the truth in the forum and got banned from forum only i can go on rest of site.
So this makes 2 post of mine deleted from phpnuke.org
If i so bad how come he will not delete me as a user, i know just to make his user numbers high. I asked to be deleted and he never did.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by deanot on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 17:27:28 CST
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I take it you was the guy that posted on PHP-NUKE.org and on NC? user of AMF?
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by yanni on Monday, March 22 2004 @ 20:16:01 CST
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FB has Stolen NSN Work... YES! and you stolen ALL FB's work with NSN-Nuke, respect credits and copyrights, then complain.
And FB can do anything he wants with his code and others code since this is GPL. He can sell whatever he want. Read the GPL FAQ and qet a clue (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html)
And do yourself a favor, stop being so stupid!
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by BobMarion on Monday, March 22 2004 @ 20:25:38 CST
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Thank you for admiting to having stolen someone elses work and that you will steal anything else you want.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by jens on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 01:48:58 CST
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It is ashaming to read such a post; Just reading the GPL is something, that all of you should start instead of writing such useless posts. If you love FB: Go and marry him, but do not posts lies about the GPL.
GPL says in paragraph 1:
"You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty; "
Or, if it is to heavy for you to read such complicated texts, just look into the official GPL FAQ, it is written for users and answers such Questions. A look there shows you:
"You can certainly get credit for the work. Part of releasing a program under the GPL is writing a copyright notice in your own name (assuming you are the copyright holder). The GPL requires all copies to carry an appropriate copyright notice. "
So this should be solved!? Anyway, this is *not* FBs Code, there are parts from Thatware and other Authors - because of that, he owns partial properties, but not the whole code! If he is using foreign code, he has tu respect the credits - FB himself is the one who cries as loudest if someone removes his (c) output from the footer; But: This Footer is not respected by the GPL. FSF itself told me, that outcommenting this output is allowed - the original Email is here:
http://www.netz-id.de/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1571
By the way: If anyone is nerved by this (c) line output: Just empty the column "copyright" in the table _config. You can leave in your DB what you want as i believe - no one can tell you, what data have to be in your database. if you empty this column, the code still stays in the footer.php, but the variable $copyright will be empty - so: no output.
Just my 2 cents and it would be glad, if only people are talking about GPL, who really read it! This is no question of "i like FB" or "i like phpnuke" - this is a question of using the GPL, nothing else
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by deanot on Thursday, March 25 2004 @ 06:15:01 CST
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I should ban you just because of this lame comment.
Listen, I am going to say this again, NSN-NUKE was not stolen from PHP-NUKE, Just like POST-NUKE, just like XOOPS and many others they are all forks!
NSN-NUKE is a complete re-write and under GPL (you may want to go back and read it) if you change a certain amount of code you can claim it to be as your own.
NSN-NUKE or any other CMS is not the argument, and NO, FB cannot claim other peoples code as his own, he would need permission to use someone elses code or give credit for it.
Now go look at the footer of this page, do you not see a PHP-NUKE credit sitting there? and this site is highly modified but that did not stop Bob from leaving it there did it?
Personaly I would strip anything to do with FB if he did the same to me.
Its like building a new computer and someone taking it from you and selling it, its the same thing, your computer and your hard work has been stolen.
Smell the coffee, wake up and read whats going on before running your mouth next time.
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by Andrzej on Monday, March 22 2004 @ 23:24:11 CST
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FB has deleted all commnets about that issue on his forum. That's the way it works.
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Re: All comments deleted (Score: 1)
by Andrzej on Monday, March 22 2004 @ 23:27:25 CST
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Nukecops.com did the same
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Re: All comments deleted (Score: 1)
by jens on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 01:52:00 CST
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It was a failure, to concentrate on phpnuke.org and nukecops.com - do you really believe that they interact with souch posts?
Work on the international communities, most international sites will discuss about this, because there is no fear to "lost something". Inform the Users there...
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by Tweety on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 02:08:43 CST
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Bob, we have to stop this "war" .
You make great thing for the PHP-Nuke community, you are on the way to have your CMS based on PHP-Nuke and with lot of stuff by NSN so, let the people have their opinions.
One time war with post nuke, another time with nsn nuke ....
Now CMS have great succes the people can choose and i think it s a good think like the people can choose IBF or phpBB or SPLATT ...
I think you can love a red car and not me, but the car is it bad ? no it is red that's all and anyone can choose what he wants.(i hope you can understand my expression about car, in french we say, "it s a picture") :-)
No continuous your job and the people with time can have their opinion.
Yes, perhaps (i say perhaps) Francisco use part of your code, but you use part of his in nsn nuke and so on and so on.
We can make war everyday for those things but do you really think it s positive for you, for fb, for us ...
Best regards.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by jens on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 02:17:34 CST
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Bob, we have to stop this "war" .
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There is only one person, who is not respecting the credits - the people here are just searching for something, every author should get. FB can use foreign code, but there are rules he has to respect
It was not PostNuke and not NSN who creates the problems - just think about it!
This is no "war". i am no NSN or postnuke user, the only topic is the gpl - nothing else. so forget these "i like phpnuke" posts, thats not the case and you all have to understand this!
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by BobMarion on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 02:59:19 CST
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Tweety,
I am going on with what I do everyday, I code to the best of my skills.
I also agree with 95% of what you have said. The other 5% is above this comment and in this comment :)
Yes, NSN-Nuke was based on an older PHP-Nuke and credit was given to FB for that. NSN-Nuke has gone thru many stages of coding, recoding, code additions, and code deletions. Very little if any remains that was truely FB's. But the article was not about FB using NSN-Nuke but using a NSN package.
The article above was written to express concern that FB claimed to have recoded all of the admin module files to use the phpBB sql layering, that it took him weeks to do that. He also claimed that he spent days or weeks adding the secfixes, those by ChatServ and users that have submitted fixes here that are in the NSNized versions. There are many improvements in the NSNized versions of PHP-Nuke. Improvements that I honestly don't think FB could do on his own.
Yes he spent weeks sitting and waiting, tring to make it look like he had done the work himself that had already been done. I have his ip tracked thru the site and when he downloaded 7.1.1 which was a month ago. What does lieing to the community do for him, makes him quite a bit of money. 95% of PHP-Nuke is written by people other then him and yet none of them get credit (unless it's a cop stuck in FB's ###) nor rewards for the work they have done to help him line his pockets on their labor.
As far as this being a war, to me it's yet another battle to get the child to be honest in his dealings with others. The same battle that has taken place time and time again, except this time I'm not going to run away and make it easy for him like others have in the past. I'm staying here and making sure people know what they can expect from him.
I do honestly thank you for your thoughtful comment and this in no way is meant as a flame towards you. You have expressed your honest opinion and I respect that. As you pointed out, I simply disagree with some of your points :) I have strong opinions about this and most of them will never see the light of day, mostly because it would make the devil blush if I ever put them into words.
With that, I will end this comment and put my soapbox away for tonite.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by deanot on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 17:43:49 CST
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Good speach if I do say so myself, BUT, I would like to point out as Bob did.....
NSN-NUKE & PHP-NUKE is not the argument here, the argument or point is.... Bob made changes to the original PHP-NUKE 7.1.0 from FB, fixed a lot of issues (around 100) if I am right and repackaged it to PHP-NUKE 7.1.1 NSN, and in the download section you will find names of people for credit, like CHATSERVE for instance.
Then FB got hold of the 7.1.1 and renamed it to 7.2.0 and released it as his own work, no thanks to Bob, Chatserve or whoever contributed to it.
This has been going on for years as I recall, and nothing has changed, but now we are all standing up and fighting for a little appreciation SOMEWHERE!
If you dont understand what this is all about, dont say nothing, keep out of it and go your merry way.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by DJMaze on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 05:01:09 CST
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By shouting against FB his actions you gain no respect for yourself.
A lot of people know what FB is doing and there's no way you can prevent that.
1 thing should work only if the community shows the strength of a horse to drop FB and powerup the development of NSN and CPG-Nuke.
Then offer the benefits of that system to all ISP's to release that new CMS as default in their WebPanels.
Stop the war take action !!!
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by DJMaze on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 05:14:16 CST
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Thank god he didn't fix nuke with the code changes of Steven and the CPG team.
Or else it was time for some serious action.
If you wanna know wot changes then search for mainfile.php speed in some forums.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by BobMarion on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 09:48:26 CST
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DJ, hope you don't if I call you DJ :)
Your points are good and with that in mind, I offer my hand in hopes that NSN, NSN-Nuke, and CPG-Nuke can work in co-operation with one another. Let us colaberate and produce products that will put forth the best offerings to the community. We agree that something needs to be done for and by the community.
I look forward to hearing from you.
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by tjungeblut on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 16:07:31 CST
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There is always a good thing coming out of really bad ones.
In my opinion the colaberation of NSN and CPG is really good, as both have great ideas and soon there is no need for talking about PHP-Nuke anymore.:)
Go ahead, many people will folllow, that's for sure!
Theo
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Re: FB has Stolen NSN Work (Score: 1)
by intel352 on Tuesday, March 23 2004 @ 14:40:33 CST
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i'm *slowly* working on opening a web hosting business, got the domain, hosting/reselling software, etc, i can guarantee i'll do everything possible to encourage use of nsnnuke and cpgnuke by my clientelle
if someone happens to write an install script for either CMS that could run from a control panel such as HSphere (http://www.psoft.net), that would make it even easier for me :-)
i've long been put-out with the state of PHP-Nuke and how FB treats the community, and i've been playing with NSNNuke for a few months now, finally started upgrading my production sites with it, and i eagerly wait for NSNNuke to take hold and take off with a large community following of it's own :-)
i'm also about to relaunch nukebbmods with a focus towards a variety of cms's, with little-to-no focus on php-nuke...
so you guys have my support :-)
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